Why would Obama's birth certificate matter?

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:31 pm

So some right-wing sites are all atwitter because Hawaii's birth certificates are badly printed. Now, of course you can just call Hawaii and ask if such and such a birth certificate is valid, so the paper is really immaterial.

But even given that... Why would it matter?

Obama's parents were Americans, just as McCain's were when he was born in Panama.

-Crissa

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:44 am

Spreading rumors that Obama is 'unAmerican' might hurt his chance of being elected. Duh.

Talisman · Post by **Talisman** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:42 am

A-ha! He's a dirty, stinkin' Hawaiian! I knew he wasn't a Real American!

And his name rhymes with "Osama!"

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:00 am

What else are the righties going to run on? Policies?

JonSetanta · Post by **JonSetanta** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:42 am

Talisman wrote:And his name rhymes with "Osama!"

I've heard so many older conservatives make that joke that it's gone from not-even-funny to fucking obnoxious.

What's everyone's opinion on Obama's tax plans? Or has that been discussed elsewhere around here....

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:58 am

Crissa wrote:But even given that... Why would it matter?
-Crissa

Because some people think that Obama wasn't really born at all; that he sprung forth from a clam shell like the divine being that he is ...

(Wait that's the liberal fringe who is saying this ... nevermind.)

Neeeek · Post by **Neeeek** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:16 am

tzor wrote: Because some people think that Obama wasn't really born at all; that he sprung forth from a clam shell like the divine being that he is ...

(Wait that's the liberal fringe who is saying this ... nevermind.)

I assure you tzor, if that's what you think the liberal fringe thinks about Obama, you've not been talking to the liberal fringe.

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:04 pm

I'm sorry I try not to think about what the liberal fringe thinks, nor the conservative fringe, two sides of the coin that borders on the edge of madness.

But the Venus image just seemed so ironic that I had to attribute it to somebody!

Personally when I first heard his name I started an uncontrolable parody of "Oh Susana."

Yes conservatives can run against his policies. There are a number of them that don't sit well with them. Especially since most also are pro-life and he has a proven track record for killing born babies just because someone wanted them dead before they were born. Then his general attitude towards taxing the rich. Conservatives don't like that because some day they want to be one; then they can sell the pickup truck in the front yard or at least buy four tires for it.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:06 am

tzor wrote:But the Venus image just seemed so ironic that I had to attribute it to somebody!

I had no idea you considered yourself "liberal fringe". I guess it fits, but still kinda odd.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:55 am

Let's play "did he just say that?"

tzor wrote:I'm sorry I try not to think about what the liberal fringe thinks, nor the conservative fringe, two sides of the coin that borders on the edge of madness.

Right, got it, crazy extremists, best not associate with... uh oh, what's this he is saying now...

tzor wrote:Personally when I first heard his name I started an uncontrolable parody of "Oh Susana."

I don't know that sounds a bit "edge of madness" right there really but I mean its not like you said something completely batshi...

tzor wrote:he has a proven track record for killing born babies just because someone wanted them dead before they were born. Then his general attitude towards taxing the rich.

... Oh.

Um.

How embarrassing for you.

Tzor you ARE a right wing fringe crazy. You regularly spout right wing fringe crazy nonsense that mainstream society rejects, rejects and rejects.

For an example, read pretty much any of your own posts, you don't need to go further than the last one.

Be more self conscious before bashing on your poor fellow right wing loons.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:24 am

As much as I hate agreeing with Lobster, and I can't even remember why any more, I'm going to: Tzor, you're the closest this site has to a right-wing fringe lunatic, and lines like:

he has a proven track record for killing born babies just because someone wanted them dead before they were born.

Are all the evidence we need. Don't speak of right-wing fringe lunatics as though you're not one.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:10 pm

tzor wrote:he has a proven track record for killing born babies just because someone wanted them dead before they were born.

Incorrect.

The fact is, during all of these votes, it was already illegal to abort a fetus in the third trimester. Creating legislation in order to waste our legislators and courts time and money is the real abuse here, not any procedural votes to avoid laws which make no logical sense.

-Crissa

(In no way can a fetus of less than six months of development survive outside its mother with current technology. And in no way can a fetus with only a heartbeat, voluntary muscle movement, or (not and) umbilical pulsation remain living even inside its mother.)

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:14 am

PhoneLobster wrote:Tzor you ARE a right wing fringe crazy. You regularly spout right wing fringe crazy nonsense that mainstream society rejects, rejects and rejects.

No way is he Right Wing Fringe. If you think Tzor is Right Wing Fringe, you have not heard Right Wing Fringe.

[Edit]At any rate, I'm all for letting women have their babies killed, and I don't mind calling it killing babies.[/Edit]

[Edit2]
"It may be typical of the pro-Obama Dungeons & Dragons crowd to disparage a fellow countryman's memory of war from the comfort of mom's basement, but most Americans have the humility and gratitude to respect to respect and learn from the memories of men who suffered on behalf of others.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:51 am

Sorry, raving reality warping foaming at the mouth anti abortion rants are a primary identifying feature in the taxonomy of right wing fringe.

Taxonomy, that's science that is. It's probably because you know, abortion, contraception, sex education, womens rights, etc... remain consistently popular and or proven effectiveness with all bar the frothing minority of individuals who think that torturing and killing REAL people is OK if it comforts their superstitions.

You gotta be crazy right wing fringe to think that blabbering on about Obama eating babies or whatever isn't crazy right wing fringe. I admit it isn't ALL of crazy right wing fringe, but its enough to earn your Ronald Reagan fan club badge and a seat at a telephone sapping secular government funds to lie to women in distress.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:12 am

Yeah, crazy right-wing just isn't as far from media center as left-wing. You don't actually have to step away from the ones interviewed on TV to find ones talking foamy-mouth stuff.

Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, etc.

-Crissa

Via ABC News: "It would be political suicide ... to change the Republican Party platform to include exceptions to abortion ... for a woman's life or health."

Their nuts own the house.

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:19 am

Thank you CatharzGodfoot for not putting me in the fringe. Mind you some people may find my constant searching for a parody (if the syllables fit jam them in I say).

Crissa, WTF are you trying to suggest. States routinely permit abortions in the third trimester for the life (and health wink wink) of the mother. People have survived abortions, believe it or not. (Of course not if they are LEFT IN S CLOSET TO STARVE AND DEHYDRATE!) But perhaps that's for another thread.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:18 am

tzor wrote:(Of course not if they are LEFT IN S CLOSET TO STARVE AND DEHYDRATE!)

Infanticide works just as well after the kid is born, it just means a lot more wasted energy, pain, time, and money. Yet another argument in favor of legal abortions.

Optimator · Post by **Optimator** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:15 pm

Crissa wrote:Yeah, crazy right-wing just isn't as far from media center as left-wing. You don't actually have to step away from the ones interviewed on TV to find ones talking foamy-mouth stuff.

Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, etc.

-Crissa

As much as I dislike her, I have to respect Ann Coulter. She is so damn good at what she does; she is the worlds greatest IRL troll.

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